You're Wrong About

You're Wrong About

Michael Hobbes & Sarah Marshall


138 episodes

Mike and Sarah are journalists obsessed with the past. Every week they reconsider a person or event that's been miscast in the public imagination.

  • 26 JUL 2021
    Summer Book Club: "The Satan Seller" (Part 3)
    46m 9s

    We finish our San Bernardino joyride through Mike Warnke’s 1972 “memoir” with a hex, a horrible crime and a Satanic celebrity cameo. Digressions include digressions include Billie Eilish, wicker men and today’s completely new and not at all...

  • 12 JUL 2021
    Summer Book Club: "The Satan Seller" (Part 2)
    53m 38s

    We continue our journey through Mike Warnke's 1972 "memoir" about his rise through the ranks of Satan Inc.  This week, Mike gets a promotion, attends a regional conference and dabbles in some light human trafficking. Despite...

  • 28 JUN 2021
    Summer Book Club: "The Satan Seller" (Part 1)
    57m 48s

    Sarah and Mike return to Camp You're Wrong About for another Satanic Panic story hour. This time we're talking about Mike Warnke's 1972 "memoir" about joining a demonic cult and the California hedonism that made him...

  • 07 JUN 2021
    Cancel Culture
    1h 21m 46s

    Mike and Sarah have big feelings about an enduring debate. Digressions include “Carrie,” party planning etiquette and Whole Foods cafeterias. Sarah’s sound quality changes midway through because she moves from a McDonald’s parking lot to a...

  • 03 MAY 2021
    The Chicks vs. The Iraq War
    1h 30m 23s

    Mike tells Sarah about an impending conflict, a dissident singer and America's first internet-enabled cancellation. Digressions include "Freedom Fries" and 1990s record company shenanigans. The co-hosts harmonize for the firs...

  • 19 APR 2021
    "Political Correctness"
    1h 22m 8s

    Mike tells Sarah how liberal magazines turned a "kids these days" moral panic into a national crisis. Digressions include Law & Order, Dave Foley and swimming pool etiquette. This episode contains detailed descriptions of sexu...

  • 05 APR 2021
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: From the Mixed-Up Files of Mr. F. Lee Bailey
    51m 11s

    Bob Shapiro is on a mission from God, F. Lee Bailey joins the Dream Team, and we get in our DeLorean to meet two of the most notorious Florida Men of the '60s: Carl Coppolino and Murph the Surf. Digressions include Linda Evangelista, P...

  • 22 MAR 2021
    Vanessa Williams Part 2: Saving The Best For Last
    1h 4m 37s

    Special guest Cassie da Costa tells Mike and Sarah how Vanessa fell from grace and picked herself back up. Digressions include Stephen Sondheim, Rush Limbaugh and Joan Rivers. The tyranny of abs is discussed at length.Here's Cassie&apo...

  • 15 MAR 2021
    Bonus: Dr. Oz
    1h 1m 52s

    Mike reached new levels of rantiness on his other show and we wanted to make sure all our beloved debunkmates knew. PLUS: A special announcement! Subscribe to Maintenance Phase hereSubscribe to Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads, hereSup...

  • 08 MAR 2021
    Vanessa Williams Part 1: Becoming Miss America
    1h 22m 5s

    Mike tells Sarah how a 20-year-old singer, actress and French horn player became Miss America with less than six months of practice. Digressions include Ted Bundy, Stephen King’s “It” and a bonus debunking of the "bra-burning feminist&...

  • 01 MAR 2021
    Bonus: "The Dark Knight"
    1h 22m 4s

    Sarah's other show has a special guest! Maintenance Phase co-host Aubrey Gordon visits Why Are Dads to talk about Christopher Nolan, trash masculinity and the dwindling number of non-problematic superheroes. Support us:Subscribe on Pat...

  • 22 FAB 2021
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: The DeLorean Detour
    49m 44s

    To tell the story of the "dream team" we must begin by going back to the future. This week we learn why O.J. Simpson fired the man who defended John DeLorean and why a briefcase of cocaine isn’t always a smoking gun. Digressions i...

  • 15 FAB 2021
    Tipper Gore vs. Heavy Metal: The Hearing
    1h 12m 25s

    Mike tells Sarah the real reason Congress called a bunch of rockers to Washington D.C. Digressions include cartoon violence, sleeveless tees and Trixie Mattel. Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" and Twisted Sister's "We&...

  • 08 FAB 2021
    Tipper Gore vs. Heavy Metal: The Case Against "Porn Rock"
    1h 2m 5s

    Mike tells Sarah how a congressional wife started a moral crusade. Digressions include Sheena Easton, Satanic rhymes and teen homicide statistics. Ozzy Osbourne's bat story is recounted in full.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on...

  • 01 FAB 2021
    The Anti-Vaccine Movement
    45m 54s

    Special guest Eric Michael Garcia tells Mike and Sarah about the deep roots of a pernicious modern myth. Digressions include Mary Tyler Moore, British place names and supermodel dating habits. Mike finally gets to talk about Swedish statist...

  • 25 JAN 2021
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: The Arraignmaker
    47m 6s

    This week, we put on our suits and head back to the courtroom. O.J. Simpson pleads not guilty, Marcia Clark finishes questioning Kato Kaelin and Bob Shapiro continues to furrow his brow. Digressions include "Speed," the Kuleshov e...

  • 18 JAN 2021
    Shannon Faulkner & Sex Discrimination at The Citadel
    1h 8m 32s

    Mike tells Sarah how a troll-ish experiment turned a South Carolina teenager into one of the most maligned women of the 1990s. Digressions include Sally Ride, Anne Hathaway and, as usual, "Newsies." Mike struggles with the word &q...

  • 11 JAN 2021
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: My Fair Paula
    52m 43s

    This week we talk about the early days of Paula and O.J.’s relationship and the celebrity cameos reach either a high or a low point. Digressions include date etiquette,  cat scams and room-temperature Diet Coke. Mike has his head in his han...

  • 28 DEC 2020
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: Paula Escapes From L.A.
    50m 43s

    This week we return to the  O.J. Simpson trial and learn what Paula Barbieri did after the Bronco chase. Digressions include fish, beef and grocery shopping while conventionally attractive. Neither co-host has a firm grasp on the meaning of...

  • 21 DEC 2020
    The Stanford Prison Experiment
    1h 10m 58s

    Mike tells Sarah the complicated story of an over-simplified study. Digressions include Tonya Harding, "The Meg" and Kitty Genovese. The Milgram obedience studies and the "broken windows" theory of policing receive bonus...

  • 07 DEC 2020
    Losing Relatives to Fox News
    55m 18s

    Mike tells Sarah what makes older Americans more vulnerable to misinformation — and who is delivering it to them. Digressions include "Supernatural," the Rachel and a fake university in Pennsylvania. We recorded this episode befor...

  • 30 NOV 2020
    The Newsboys' Strike of 1899 (Part 2)
    49m 18s

    Sarah tells Mike about the thrilling conclusion to a children’s labor action and an overlooked Disney musical. Digressions include cronuts, carrier pigeons and Sylvester Graham’s crackers.  Both hosts agree that they love saying the word &q...

  • 23 NOV 2020
    The Newsboys' Strike of 1899 (Part 1)
    40m 33s

    Sarah tells Mike about media history, labor organizing, century-old moral panics — and the unlikely Disney musical that introduced her to all three. Digressions include Sting, "The Princess Bride" and 19th century graphic design....

  • 19 NOV 2020
    Bonus: The "Twinkie Defense"
    49m 20s

    Was Harvey Milk's killer really given a light sentence after claiming that junk food made him do it? Mike's spinoff podcast, Maintenance Phase, dives into the rumor and finds a very You're Wrong About twist. Subscribe to Main...

  • 16 NOV 2020
    The Electoral College
    56m 38s

    Topical episode! Special guest Jamelle Bouie tells Sarah and Mike about his problematic Founding Father faves and the bewildering institution they handed down to us. Digressions include '70s lapels, "Reversal of Fortune" and...

  • 09 NOV 2020
    Princess Diana Part 5: The Crash
    1h 30m 8s

    “You can be a hot mess express and still leave the world better than you found it.” In the final episode of our series, we talk about Diana’s untimely death and the everlasting conspiracy theories surrounding it. Digressions include RPGs, M...

  • 02 NOV 2020
    Princess Diana Part 4: The Divorce
    1h 27m 48s

    This week, Diana leaves the royal family with her reputation intact and her title slightly edited. Digressions include "Love Actually," "Pride and Prejudice" and Marie Antoinette. Both co-hosts reveal their staunch affir...

  • 31 OCT 2020
    Halloween Re-Release: The Exxon Valdez Oil Spill
    1h 4m 58s

    What if the scariest thing in America is unfettered capitalism and unaccountable corporations? Sources: us:

  • 29 OCT 2020
    Bonus: Why Are Dads on "Terminator 2"
    1h 18m 26s

    Mike comes on Sarah’s new show to talk about robots, dads, the little metal hands guys and "Terminator 2: Judgment Day." An Oops! All Pop Culture episode of You’re Wrong About.Why Are Dads: the...

  • 22 OCT 2020
    Bonus: The President's Physical Fitness Test
    1h 3m 36s

    Mike has a new podcast! Here's the first episode, in which he debunks the absurd Cold War trauma factory that was once administered to 75% of American children.  If you want to subscribe to Maintenance Phase, click here: http://mainten...

  • 19 OCT 2020
    Halloween Special: Creepy Encounters
    50m 47s

    This week, Mike and Sarah dissect the Creepy Encounters subreddit and how to handle our creepy feelings in an unsafe time and place.  Digressions include Carol Kane, McDonald's and Uber.  Sarah wonders if human traffickers have taken s...

  • 12 OCT 2020
    Princess Diana Part 3: The Affairs
    1h 19m 35s

    This week, Diana swaps out her husband for a Horse Dude and Mike and Sarah act out other people's PG-13 dirty talk. Digressions include shoulder pads, Billy Joel and "Seinfeld" (twice!). There's a moment 55 minutes in th...

  • 05 OCT 2020
    Princess Diana Part 2: The Wedding
    1h 24m 59s

    This week, Diana gets married, joins her new family and meets the press. Digressions include Judy Garland, Edward Cullen and the AITA subreddit. Unfortunately, this episode includes detailed descriptions of suicide attempts and eating disor...

  • 28 SEP 2020
    Princess Diana Part 1: The Courtship
    1h 31m 37s

    We start our new series with the story of a girl, a prince and the society that convinced them they liked each other. Digressions include camels, Beyoncé and the idiosyncrasies of British place names. We're sorry to say that this episo...

  • 21 SEP 2020
    Killer Clowns
    1h 1m 21s

    For our 100th episode, American Hysteria host Chelsey Weber-Smith visits our campfire to tell us about the time America was besieged by a killer clown panic ... and then the time it happened all over again. Digressions include Jon Stewart,...

  • 14 SEP 2020
    Tuskegee Syphilis Study Part 2: The Truth
    1h 10m 35s

    “It’s like these men are being held in a bubble as science marches forward.” Mike tells Sarah how one of history's most unethical experiments came crashing down. Digressions include the history of penicillin, the power of TV movies and...

  • 08 SEP 2020
    Tuskegee Syphilis Study Part 1: The Lie
    1h 17m 36s

    Mike tells Sarah about the longest "non-therapeutic" experiment in medical history. Digressions include deep fried ice cream, Kato Kaelin and a hot-yoga cabinet. As a warning, this episode contains long quotes from eugenic memos a...

  • 31 AUG 2020
    Deep Dive Week 4: Nancy Grace v. The Constitution
    52m 27s

    This week, Sarah makes a Nancy Grace-style argument against the prosecution. Digressions include '90s romantic comedies, Betty Broderick and flatscreen TVs.Support us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on PaypalBuy cute merchWhere else to find...

  • 27 AUG 2020
    Bonus Episode! Sarah’s New Podcast “Why Are Dads”
    50m 11s

    Sarah tells Mike about her new foray into Dad Studies and, for the second time this week, discusses a horror movie about families from 1975 and sings a little.Subscribe! the show (

  • 24 AUG 2020
    The Stepford Wives
    1h 1m 18s

    Sarah tells Mike about the real-life conspiracy written between the lines of a 1970s horror novel. Digressions include "Rosemary's Baby (again), Disney World (of course), a brief history of the American pharmaceutical industry and...

  • 10 AUG 2020
    Wayfair and Human Trafficking Statistics
    57m 22s

    In another "mini" episode that accidentally turned mega, Mike tells Sarah about the Wayfair conspiracy theory and the sketchy statistical screenshots that have shown up in its wake. Digressions include "Inside Llewyn Davis,&q...

  • 03 AUG 2020
    Disco Demolition Night
    1h 37m 31s

    Mike tells Sarah how a silly sports promotion galvanized a reactionary movement. Digressions include “Charlotte’s Web,” Jane Fonda and German-language musicals. Songs are dissected; the honor of David Bowie and late-night salad bars are def...

  • 27 JUL 2020
    1h 21s

    Mike tells Sarah about the most common forms of violence in America and how they differ (twist!) from what gets shown on TV. Digressions include Perry Mason, “It’s A Wonderful Life” and fruit-toting strategies. Mike appears not to understan...

  • 20 JUL 2020
    Deep Dive Week 3: Nancy Grace v. The Jury
    39m 14s

    This week, Sarah walks Mike through Nancy Grace’s prosecution of American juries. Cameos include Mark Geragos (again), O.J. Simpson (inevitably) and Jessica Hahn (thank God). Gus Van Sant’s masterpiece "To Die For" is discussed at...

  • 16 JUL 2020
    Bonus Episode! Sarah and Mike on "The Feminist Present" Podcast
    55m 23s

    Sarah and Mike tell Laura and Adrian about how we met, how we research and what we would say to Jessica Simpson if we ever met her.Follow the The Feminist Present here: us:Subscribe on PatreonDonate on Pay...

  • 13 JUL 2020
    Deep Dive Week 2: Nancy Grace v. The Defense
    55m 15s

    This week, Nancy Grace makes her case against defense attorneys in general and Scott Peterson’s lawyer in particular. Digressions include Batman, tough on crime mixtapes and the Iraq War. After two and a half years, Sarah finds her first Sa...

  • 06 JUL 2020
    Koko The Gorilla
    1h 20m 5s

    “It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.”Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include v...

  • 29 JUN 2020
    Courtney Love
    1h 16m 48s

    Special guest Candace Opper tells Mike and Sarah how a grunge star became the protagonist in one of America's most persistent conspiracy theories. Digressions include Neil Young, protest songs and the coolest baby of the 1990s. Mike co...

  • 25 JUN 2020
    "The Prom Mom"
    54m 13s

    “The criminal justice system should treat everyone like a white teenage girl whose future it’s concerned about disrupting.” Sarah tells Mike about Melissa Drexler, the New Jersey teenager who (according to George F. Will) killed her newborn...

  • 18 JUN 2020
    Deep Dive: Nancy Grace's "Objection!" (Week 1)
    43m 24s

    Sarah tells Mike how a superhero’s genesis was a supervillain’s origin story all along. In our new deep dive, we tackle Nancy Grace’s “Objection!” and debate how defendants should behave at trial, why prosecutors seem to make good daytime T...

  • 17 JUN 2020
    The O.J. Simpson Trial: The Bronco Chase
    1h 5m 21s

    On June 17, 1994, the world screeched to a halt so 95 million Americans could watch a white SUV crawl through L.A. Today, we finally talk about the infamous Bronco chase, the men inside the car and the myth they left behind. Digressions inc...